tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post112136199889113594..comments2023-11-02T05:58:04.603-07:00Comments on Eve's Apple: The Non-Profit “Irrational Exuberance” BubbleEve's Applehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02098076158255292982noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1122052270395933312005-07-22T10:11:00.000-07:002005-07-22T10:11:00.000-07:00I think Chris is right: the tone and choice of wor...I think Chris is right: the tone and choice of words was not helpful. I wrote the original piece that Rosemary put up, and in retrospect, I see how denigrating it is to a lot folks with the best of intentions.<BR/><BR/>My frustration, as misdirected as it was through my verbal outburst, is very much real, though. Some of it is personal, as I feel that my political views, even when I take into Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1122051454117454292005-07-22T09:57:00.000-07:002005-07-22T09:57:00.000-07:00Sorry, Sunsara, I was a bit unclear in the second ...Sorry, Sunsara, I was a bit unclear in the second to last paragraph...Instead of "your rhetoric" I should have said "the rhetoric in Rosemary's original post."C - Loghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061984603918623697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1122051077319509642005-07-22T09:51:00.000-07:002005-07-22T09:51:00.000-07:00Great points, Sunsara. I appreciate your comment a...Great points, Sunsara. I appreciate your comment and agree wholeheartedly, especially on the value of evaluating action honestly and not being too self-congratulatory.<BR/><BR/>There certainly is careerism and complacency on the institutional left, which is frustrating as hell. During the summer of 2001 I was asked to design an ad that would get readers of the <I>Progressive</I> magazine to checkC - Loghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061984603918623697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121982396547871132005-07-21T14:46:00.000-07:002005-07-21T14:46:00.000-07:00Chris, I agree that hurling insults is demobilizin...Chris, <BR/><BR/>I agree that hurling insults is demobilizing and not helpful. I am not sure what you are refering to, tho, when you say that liberals are being insulted. ??<BR/><BR/>I think confronting the need for strategies that don't dead-end people's efforts - particularly at a time when things are hurtling so rapidly to the right (think of the fact that the left end of the spectrum is notSunsara Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01656828073382670061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121798536449605092005-07-19T11:42:00.000-07:002005-07-19T11:42:00.000-07:00I agree that radical action on the left can move t...I agree that radical action on the left can move the political center of gravity to the left, and that's a good thing. But once I hear complaining about how dense the liberals are, I tune out.<BR/><BR/>Tell the truth all you want, e.g. "Puny victories." You're right. They're puny. So what? To my ears, this sort of truth-telling is de-mobilizing rather than energizing.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion, C - Loghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061984603918623697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121791957922451012005-07-19T09:52:00.000-07:002005-07-19T09:52:00.000-07:00Unless there is an alternative available to people...Unless there is an alternative available to people - a way to act to bring about a different reality than the current deadly trajectory things are on, individuals do increasingly accommodate themselves to "the way things are." <BR/><BR/>I, too, have gone back and am currently re-reading The Handmaid's Tale. Something that struck me this time more is how the main character Ofglen recognizes the Sunsara Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01656828073382670061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121790482335945152005-07-19T09:28:00.000-07:002005-07-19T09:28:00.000-07:00I definitely identify with the feelings of terror....I definitely identify with the feelings of terror. I often wonder how far along the road to fascism we are.<BR/><BR/>My only point is that to call potential allies delusional and borderline mentally ill may not be the best starting point for building a movement.<BR/><BR/>There is so much work to do that I disagree with denigrating the work of people who work with "mainstream" or "insider" C - Loghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061984603918623697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121727875659210272005-07-18T16:04:00.000-07:002005-07-18T16:04:00.000-07:00I've had a few conversations with friends lately. ...I've had a few conversations with friends lately. A co-worker who said her husband told her she's crazy because she's so worried about the world. Another friend who feels terrified--that was the word she used--terrified--when she thinks about the direction of things in this country. She mentioned the Handmaid's Tale. I keep having moments of clarity where it feels like I'm watching myself in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121459955209631192005-07-15T13:39:00.000-07:002005-07-15T13:39:00.000-07:00So everyone who doesn't see the world the way you ...So everyone who doesn't see the world the way you do is delusional?C - Loghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061984603918623697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121371619174848992005-07-14T13:06:00.000-07:002005-07-14T13:06:00.000-07:00To your partner: my friend, you are pointing to a ...To your partner: my friend, you are pointing to a very real thing. <BR/><BR/>To take an existential approach: we are born into a situation we did not create. A situation which is rife with ugliness- great beauty as well, but unbelievable ugliness. <BR/><BR/>This same situation teaches us that ain't nothing to be done about it- human nature is flawed, people are too different from each other, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14282997.post-1121367201505258662005-07-14T11:53:00.000-07:002005-07-14T11:53:00.000-07:00Damn! But I LIKE my irrational exuberance. These...Damn! But I LIKE my irrational exuberance. These days, its the only exuberance I get and I'm exuberance starved. But, I hear ya. I keep looking for little things to build on since so many building blocks were snatched away. . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com